10:06 AM laurastorr2: Hi Niloo - are you there - I've worked it out
10:07 AM Either google has updated its pages or internet explorer 7 has affected it - but looks like I can still get on
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10:08 AM niloopafernando: hi im in
10:09 AM laurastorr2: Great - I haven't had time to read your story yet as I only just got into the office - problems on transport - I will quickly read it now
10:12 AM Not sure where buddhi is but we can start if you like
10:13 AM Ok - Niloo I've had a quick read. The language is much better - you are using very simple language which is great and its much clearer
10:14 AM But there are still some problems with the structure. It reads more like a history than anything else.
I want you to think of the main thing you are trying to say with this story and write it in one sentence - can you do that now
10:17 AM Hi NIloo - just checking you are still there?
niloopafernando: yes
sorry was out for a lil
10:18 AM laurastorr2: I can't get hold of Buddhi - she is now 20 mintues late so I think we'll have to do the session alone
10:19 AM I've just found her - she is coming in
10:20 AM niloopafernando: o.k.
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10:21 AM niloopafernando: just have to meet with the manager for a sec. will come as quickly as possible
buddhi.dissanayake: I joined you Laura am I with you all
10:22 AM laurastorr2: Oh dear - this is a bit tricky as Niloo keeps having to leave - Buddhi lets carry on
buddhi.dissanayake: Ya I am ready
10:23 AM laurastorr2: Ok buddhi - I'm going to focus on the beginning of your story. It's a definite improvement - you have brought the most interesting thing to the top but its still a bit clumsy
Intros are really important - it has to be snappy and interest the read and make them want to read on - so think about the following
What are you really trying to say?
10:24 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Nice to hear that I have improved a bit. Will you explain the word "clumsy" please
laurastorr2: How would you explain it to your mum or a friend in a short sentence?
What is the single message you are trying to convey?
Can you make it shorter?
10:25 AM buddhi.dissanayake: I want to focus on the improvement of the case. I mean this case was taken to the high court very soon comparing to the others. As well as I want to show the courage of the victim to face the courts
10:28 AM laurastorr2: Ok sorry - clumsy just means its not quite clear enough - starting with a quote is fine but it needs to be really strong - I think starting with a quote that talks about someone else - in this case "a young girl" immediately detaches the reader from what's happened. It would be much stronger if the quote was from the girl herself. Something like "I was walking home one night when a man came up behind me and dragged me to the side of the road" explained 19-year-old Mary who was raped near her home in Colombo.
10:29 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Normally in Sri Lanka rape cases take a long time to drug into the High court. But this case was taken very soon. Now this girl is facing to the courts without any fear. That is mainly becuase she knows that the Setik is always with her and she is enouraged by our lawyers and counsellors.
10:30 AM laurastorr2: Ok - so what do you think the most interesting thing about this story - is it that the case was taken to court quickly?
buddhi.dissanayake: Oh yah I got what you have explained. Understood thanks
niloopafernando: im sorry there is this communicator trying to come to SL on the 19th. I am trying to coordinate with the diocese.
10:31 AM laurastorr2: Ok - I want you to write a new intro sentence now - think of what the main message is of the story and write it in one sentence. NIloo - you can do it too either for Buddhi's story or for your own. I want the sentence to make me want to read on....
buddhi.dissanayake: Yes I belive it is mainly because of the Setik HR unit's involvement
10:32 AM laurastorr2: NIloo - no worries - lets just do what we can
10:33 AM Would it help if we looked at some examples - I can show you some on bbc online or on the CAFOD website - let me know
10:35 AM buddhi.dissanayake: "Dilrukshi's rape case was taken to the high court within a very short period" said Mr. Asela Bandara explaining the Setik HR work
10:36 AM I prepared the starting sentence focusing on the importance of the Setik HR unit. I think it will make me easier to talk about Cafod's involvement in this regard. Am I correct. Any comments please
laurastorr2: Ok buddhi - this is a bit tricky but here goes
10:38 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Actually I didn't have a clear idea whether to focus on the victim or Setik HR work. Now I got it
laurastorr2: Personally I think the most interesting thing about this story is that the girl was raped in the first place - so I think its better to focus on that - you can then explain in the second sentence that because of Setik HR the case was taken to court quickly
10:39 AM Let me tell you something important about news writing - its called the 5 Ws. You should try and get the following near the top of the story:
Who - who are we talking about? In this case 19-year-old Dilrukshi
10:40 AM Where - where is this taking place - a place in Colombo - which place? If you are writing for UK they may not know that Kandy is in central Sri Lanka - or that Batticaloa is in the east so it might be better to say central Sri Lanka rather than Kandy for example
10:42 AM When - when did this happen? This matters more when its a news story that happened recently - rather than something that happened a few years ago - for example - last night, today, last week. However - if it was 6 months ago I would probably leave the exact when out as it makes it look too old. However - in the middle of the night - is important information
What - what has happened - Dilrukshi was raped
10:43 AM Why? This is something you would explore later in the story. In this case its not why was she raped necessarily - but why are you telling the story? This is when Setik HR would come in - you are telling the story because Setik HR has helped this girl and taken her case to court in a short time
10:45 AM Hi Niloo - are you there? I can't work it out - let me know I don't want to ignore you!
10:46 AM buddhi.dissanayake: When we are writing a story using this 5Ws do you think we should use them in order....... Who, where, when what and why or can we use them where necessary
10:47 AM laurastorr2: No - the order doesn't matter - just try to get Who, when, where, what into the first sentence where possible. The why can normally wait until a bit later. The order doesn't matter - whatever comes naturally
Can you try writing the first sentence again thinking about the 5Ws
10:48 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Ok give me a moment
laurastorr2: Niloo - let me know if you're there - I'm assuming you aren't
10:51 AM buddhi.dissanayake: "On 14th mid night I was raped on the public road" said 19 year old Dilrukshi who lives in the Central Sri Lanka". (Here I use on 14th night without mentioning the year of the case as you told earlier this case was very old.
10:52 AM Niloo we two are looking for you. Are you there?
10:54 AM laurastorr2: Ok - this is much better. You have all 4Ws well done. Lets be less specific about the time though. A 19-year-old girl, who was raped on a public road in central Sri Lanka has had her case brought to court with the help of Setik HR.
10:57 AM When you are writing a news story (using the 5Ws - it is best not to use a quote in the first sentenc). We will talk about how to use quotes in another session. If you look at the sentence above I have included Who, what, where and why (we are telling the story). I have not included when. I don' t think this is a big deal in this case but I could include it easily without being specific about the timing can you see how?
I think this first sentence could be improved slightly as we don't need to say the road is public - aren't most roads public?
11:01 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Yes got it. I always try to use quotes because I feel that makes the story more intresting. I agree with you , with your example clearly you have included who where and what without using quotes. I learnt it
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11:02 AM laurastorr2: OK - this is good. Quotes are really important as you say - and sometimes you can use a quote as the first sentence - especially in a feature - but it needs to be really strong
buddhi.dissanayake: I can see that Niloo is still online and with us but no idea why is she silence
laurastorr2: Niloo - I see you are back, but we are at the end of our session - do you want to carry on for a bit longer?
11:03 AM Buddhi - how are you for time?
11:04 AM buddhi.dissanayake: I can be with you for another 15 minutes. I think I learnt how to start a story very well today and well understood.
11:05 AM niloopafernando: o.k. i can be i another 5 mins
i just have to get this letter approved to be sent to patrick
11:06 AM laurastorr2: Ok - not sure what's happened to Niloo as you say. Let's look at some other intros on bbc website so you get the idea http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7349955.stm
buddhi.dissanayake: Laura what about you with the time. It seems that Niloo is quite busy today with her work
laurastorr2: I can go for another 10 minutes or so - we started a bit late.
11:07 AM Is there another story you are working on at the moment - that you can write an intro for?
buddhi.dissanayake: Do you want me to look at the link you sent just now or can I look at it later on
11:08 AM laurastorr2: I think it will be useful for you to look at lots of intros between now and the next session - good websites to check are bbc - particularly for news stories. YOu can also check the CAFOD website www.cafod.org.uk and other charities. I want you to pick out the best intros, post them on the blog and tell me why you think they are a good intro
11:09 AM There are probably some sri lankan sites you can also look at - would be interesting for me to see how stories are written there - but I'm afraid they would need to be in English
buddhi.dissanayake: I haven't at the moment. As the Cafod is funding for us with our HR work I think I need to find a story from the HR unit. I think for the next session I will be able to find an intresting story. Niloo is having different stories as sedec has different projects with Cafod. But I have to quote one from HR work
11:10 AM laurastorr2: I think for the purposes of this training you can use other case studies - obviously it will be great if we can use stories that CAFOD funds. However, it will be good to have different stories so we can practice
11:12 AM buddhi.dissanayake: I saw steve asked us to save this live chat. He pasted our last discussion into our blog and it is very much important to look back. Do you know how to do that?
laurastorr2: I think you just cut and paste the text - don't worry I will do it
Are you ready to go now? I don't want to keep you from your work
11:14 AM buddhi.dissanayake: I can then use different case studies. I will try to use a case with Cafod project. Incase if couldn't find any I will get back to you with another intresting story. What about the dates and time for the next session?
11:16 AM niloopafernando: im in
laurastorr2: Not sure - as niloo isn't here its difficult to arrange now. I will email you both and tell you your assignments again. But it will focus on intros I think. I think this session has still been useful though. Shall we sign off now?
niloopafernando: are you free to do it now
buddhi.dissanayake: Niloo is with us now
laurastorr2: Ok - tell me when you would like to arrange the next session?
11:17 AM Assignment for next week:
Oh dear - I'm trying to cut and paste text and I can't - does anyone have any idea how to save this?
buddhi.dissanayake: What is the assignment for the next week.
11:19 AM Last time I also tried to cut it and paste it and I ased steve then he said he will do that but he didn't explain me how to do that. May be Niloos has any ideas,
niloopafernando: i am also tying to cut and paste
i think there is a option to mail the article
11:20 AM laurastorr2: Assignment for next time is in two parts: Look at lots of different intros on websites - you can check bbc news, CAFOD website, other charity websites - Christian Aid, Save the Children, Oxfam and any sri lankan websites you think are good. I want you to pick out 3/4 intros that you think are really, really good and encourage you to read on. Post them on the blog - and say why you think they're strong. They can be different types if you want - some straight forward "news" ones with 4 or 5Ws. Some starting with a description. Some starting with a quote?
11:21 AM niloopafernando: o.k. will do that. vil you be able to comment on my story later,
laurastorr2: The second part is: I want you to write an intro for a story you are working on, or have worked on recently. It must be one sentence - and it needs to convey the main message you are trying to tell your reader. Think about the 5Ws - but remember you don' t necessarily have to get them all in. Put this up on the blog too.
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11:23 AM laurastorr2: HI Niloo - I can do some more detailed comment on your story - but as I said before it reads a bit like a history - this happened, then this happened, then this happened. The language is great - really clear - but we need to work on structure. I think we need to focus on some specific bits of writing - like writing intros, how to use quotes, what language to use, how to create pace etc.
But I will comment on both your pieces in more detail and post my comments on the blog - is this ok?
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niloopafernando: sorry i lost you
11:24 AM laurastorr2: Are you both clear what to do for next time?
niloopafernando: hi i am lost i think
11:25 AM are you there
laurastorr2: Hello - I am here - can you hear/see me?
buddhi.dissanayake: Yes. got it I have written down a bit coz still nobody is able to cut this page and paste on in our blog
niloopafernando: yes
laurastorr2: I will leave it open and try to contact steve to ask him. He is on his blackberry
niloopafernando: no
11:26 AM laurastorr2: Niloo - I don't understand you sorry
buddhi.dissanayake: That is better for us to have a look later
niloopafernando: buddhi can you send me the assignments again.
i lost the previous chats
i think steve is not online on black berry
11:27 AM laurastorr2: Oh dear - I need to cut and paste it. I will send it to your email address is that ok?
niloopafernando: o.k.
thanks
buddhi.dissanayake: Ok Niloo I will I have written down a summary on the assingnment since we couldn't copy this page
niloopafernando: o.k. thanks, email when you can
laurastorr2: Ok - what about a date for next time - do you have a suggestion?
11:28 AM niloopafernando: why dont you suggest
buddhi.dissanayake: I belive We need some time to do the assignment
laurastorr2: ok just need to look at my calender hang on a mo
11:29 AM Ok - what about 30 April or 2 May. The same time as today - 10am UK time - I've forgotten the Sri Lankan time difference?
11:30 AM I think if possible lets to 1.5 hours - as 1 hour is not enough when we have to allow for technical difficulties
11:31 AM niloopafernando: both days not o.k. as i am going on annual leave. My wedding is on 3rd may. I wont be back till 12th may
buddhi.dissanayake: 2nd May is fine for me since our monthly evaluation is going to be on 30th April
laurastorr2: Wow - congratulations! I am also getting married this year - but not till 3 May. Will look for a time later - hang on
11:32 AM niloopafernando: congrats to you too.
buddhi.dissanayake: Oh..Congratulations for your new life
laurastorr2: I meant - not till 4 October sorry
buddhi.dissanayake: Oh Laura for you too Congrats
laurastorr2: Anyway - back to the training. How about 14/15 May 10am Uk time
11:33 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Both dates are ok for me for the moment
11:34 AM laurastorr2: Hi guys - I really need to go to the loo back in a mo
niloopafernando: me too
11:35 AM 14 or the 15th
11:36 AM laurastorr2: Ok - lets say 14 May then 10-11.30am Uk time
buddhi.dissanayake: Ok done
laurastorr2: Ok - i'm off now then
11:37 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Ok Laura thanks bye. Bye Niloo
niloopafernando: bye
laurastorr2: Bye
11:39 AM niloopafernando: buddhi you can send me assignment , no?
buddhi.dissanayake: Ok give me a moment
11:41 AM niloopafernando: just email
11:42 AM buddhi.dissanayake: Ok I will sent it to your g.mail account